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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jan 20, 2021 20:22:35 GMT -8
Robert Smith is another example of a cop gone wrong and he also used Police training to further his crimes and avoid being discovered for 40 plus years. How much framing and insider-cop knowledge was in his MO (or MO's)?
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Post by nick on Feb 4, 2021 14:29:02 GMT -8
Smith was LAPD and then Port of Sacramento Police (no longer a Police Department) and I believe there are crimes that went undetected by LE. Smith was a groomer of children for molestation and he has used his training in investigations to derail LE if and when the victim reports him. The crimes he was convicted of were against a family member but this was well into the retirement period of his life so I believe he was forced to target a family member because his pool of possible victims had shrunk. It was not just child molestation there is evidence supporting Smith of being a serial rapist as well. There were cases opened where he was a POI but never enough to bring charges and he used the Police Officer to excuse any wrongdoings. The Southern Califonia series of sex assaults involved the entering of homes of victims that weren't known to him. There was a reason there was no physical evidence because of his training in forensics and crime scene processing. The cases involved some forcing of victims into showering following the assault. That had become a trend with other offenders but I believe Smith committed his crimes with a similar MO to mislead LE into linking MO's to another offender. I spoke to his family and they confirmed they also believe he committed many more crimes while employed by LAPD.
There is an interesting connection one of Smith's daughters married into the Sarda incident family so many strange connections. I met Smith myself in 1983-1984 ( prior to being convicted) while he was employed by Port of Sacramento Police and he was of course a "nice guy" aren't they always? Little did I know then.
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Post by steven on Feb 8, 2021 17:08:38 GMT -8
JJD’s nephew claimed that there was a woman who was close too JJD who attended at least one community meeting and that she could be seen in the photograph that has been posted. View AttachmentDid the Nephew say who this woman was? What woman other than his wife would JJD be close to?
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Post by steelbike on Feb 9, 2021 15:48:13 GMT -8
JJD’s nephew claimed that there was a woman who was close too JJD who attended at least one community meeting and that she could be seen in the photograph that has been posted. View AttachmentDid the Nephew say who this woman was? What woman other than his wife would JJD be close to? He strongly implied that the woman was JJD’s wife.
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Post by nick on Feb 10, 2021 15:23:27 GMT -8
Did the Nephew say who this woman was? What woman other than his wife would JJD be close to? He strongly implied that the woman was JJD’s wife. That is interesting and they did not live in the area EAR was attacking or where the Sheriff's Department was having the meetings. There can be only one reason for attending to gain inside into what LE knew about EAR.
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Post by nick on Feb 10, 2021 15:41:49 GMT -8
Unless they were living in the Citrus Heights area (not sure of the time frame) but even still I am not sure there was a meeting that far into Citrus Heights.
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Post by steven on Feb 10, 2021 17:54:36 GMT -8
Did the Nephew say who this woman was? What woman other than his wife would JJD be close to? He strongly implied that the woman was JJD’s wife. Now that is odd, not sure why she would do that? They lived in Auburn then right?
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Post by steven on Feb 11, 2021 14:56:31 GMT -8
I can not understand why Sharon would be attending a community meeting in an area she did not live in. I can see Sharon being asked by Joe or at the best-case scenario she had concern Joe might be the East Area Rapist. If she had concerns Joe was EAR way back then it would be very interesting. There is also the possibility Sharon was involved more in Joe's crimes in either of those scenarios there is no reason for Sharon to attend any of the community meetings.
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Post by nick on Feb 11, 2021 16:58:48 GMT -8
I can not understand why Sharon would be attending a community meeting in an area she did not live in. I can see Sharon being asked by Joe or at the best-case scenario she had concern Joe might be the East Area Rapist. If she had concerns Joe was EAR way back then it would be very interesting. There is also the possibility Sharon was involved more in Joe's crimes in either of those scenarios there is no reason for Sharon to attend any of the community meetings. Now, that is interesting if Sharon attended the meeting because she was suspicious that her husband was EAR. Otherwise I can't think of another reason other than attempting to see what LE knew about EAR as a suspect.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Feb 14, 2021 0:03:16 GMT -8
Could either or both JJD or SH, without attending themselves, have found out about the meeting highlights from a friend or relative who was there? Wouldn't the Italian-accented gentlemen standing up, ranting and raving, been one of those meeting highlights, that people who were there would tell others about. And those others could have told even more people about. The Italian-guy-at-the-EAR-meeting story could have reached quite a few East Area Sacramentans by word of mouth. Maybe a JJD/SH sister living in the East Area heard about the Italian guy and told them. SH had a brother and two sisters in the area, I believe. JJD had one sister living in the area.
What if some people knew who the Italian guy was, by name, or maybe knew his wife - if she was a long-time East Area citizen (the Italian guy grew up in Italy most likely, but maybe his wife grew up in Sac and had lots of friends.)
It wouldn't have taken JJD or SH (or even the relatives) being there for it to get back to them. Perhaps JJD had to do a little LE research to find out who the Italian guy was and where he lived.
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