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Post by sammyt on Aug 26, 2021 0:16:21 GMT -8
Maybe hot prowl rapes happened in Bath but were never linked to Batman because of linkage blindness? I've looked for them, but haven't found anything. I'm no murderinc though  I haven't found any reports of series of burglary/ransacking/sexualised burglary either. There were certainly plenty of other offenders active in Bath, including home invasion offenders. |
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Post by sammyt on Aug 26, 2021 8:00:36 GMT -8
Maybe hot prowl rapes happened in Bath but were never linked to Batman because of linkage blindness? Batman never entered the home of a known victim. His attacks were abductions and car jackings, which took place in the streets, in car parks or outside the homes of victims. Do you have any examples of hot prowlers - turned rapists who went on to exclusively attack outdoors? My thinking is that if Batman started off as a hot prowler, then his later crimes would at least sometimes show a desire to be inside the homes of victims. I don't think he was a burglar>sexualised burglar>rapist. These types usually like spending hours in the homes of victims, whereas Batman was always in a bit of a rush when he committed his crimes. |
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Post by murderinc on Aug 26, 2021 12:52:07 GMT -8
Maybe hot prowl rapes happened in Bath but were never linked to Batman because of linkage blindness? Batman never entered the home of a known victim. His attacks were abductions and car jackings, which took place in the streets, in car parks or outside the homes of victims. Do you have any examples of hot prowlers - turned rapists who went on to exclusively attack outdoors? My thinking is that if Batman started off as a hot prowler, then his later crimes would at least sometimes show a desire to be inside the homes of victims. I don't think he was a burglar>sexualised burglar>rapist. These types usually like spending hours in the homes of victims, whereas Batman was always in a bit of a rush when he committed his crimes. isn't entering the garage attacking indoors? I think you are thinking too much within the confines of pseudoscientific police theory. Drop all that hogwash. The idea criminals do things the same way all the time is a myth. Batman was a rapist, he most likely raped inside houses as well as inside cars. |
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Post by sammyt on Aug 27, 2021 4:22:14 GMT -8
Batman never entered the home of a known victim. His attacks were abductions and car jackings, which took place in the streets, in car parks or outside the homes of victims. Do you have any examples of hot prowlers - turned rapists who went on to exclusively attack outdoors? My thinking is that if Batman started off as a hot prowler, then his later crimes would at least sometimes show a desire to be inside the homes of victims. I don't think he was a burglar>sexualised burglar>rapist. These types usually like spending hours in the homes of victims, whereas Batman was always in a bit of a rush when he committed his crimes. isn't entering the garage attacking indoors? I think you are thinking too much within the confines of pseudoscientific police theory. Drop all that hogwash. The idea criminals do things the same way all the time is a myth. Batman was a rapist, he most likely raped inside houses as well as inside cars. True about the garage and perhaps I am getting caught up in police theory. Batman had a somewhat flexible MO, and believe me I'm looking for other offences. He committed at least 22 attacks. When we consider unlinked and unreported attacks the true number may well be 50 or 60. |
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Post by sammyt on Aug 27, 2021 4:45:09 GMT -8
Did the Batman kill Shelley Morgan in June 1984?
Shelley's remains were found in woodland. She had been stripped naked but still had her tights on.
Seven years later the Batman emerges a few miles away. He makes his victims put their tights back on too.
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Post by sammyt on Aug 27, 2021 5:52:52 GMT -8
www.bridgwatermercury.co.uk/news/1766799.dna-traps-man-for-rape-14-years-on/ceadstorage.blob.core.windows.net/cead-images/NewsReportreGodfrey.PDF Geoffrey Godfrey, raped a woman in Somerset in 1993. Caught by familial DNA in 2007. 26-35 years old during the Batman series. Godfrey wore a balaclava, gloves and attacked the woman at 1am on a canal path. Martin Steen, prosecuting, said the woman was too terrified to scream for fear of what he might do to her. Mr Steen said: "She tried to keep his hands away from her but she failed. Her tights were ripped as he pulled at them."
Godfrey was only caught after 16 months of painstaking familial DNA analysis by forensic experts. Police examined the profiles of 4,000 relatives and distant relatives before zeroing in on Godfrey. He was married, worked in construction and had no criminal record. His wife and sister reacted to his arrest with complete disbelief. Godfrey claimed that this 1993 attack was his one moment of madness/only offence.  
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Post by sammyt on Oct 27, 2021 0:58:41 GMT -8
Batman never entered the home of a known victim. His attacks were abductions and car jackings, which took place in the streets, in car parks or outside the homes of victims. Do you have any examples of hot prowlers - turned rapists who went on to exclusively attack outdoors? My thinking is that if Batman started off as a hot prowler, then his later crimes would at least sometimes show a desire to be inside the homes of victims. I don't think he was a burglar>sexualised burglar>rapist. These types usually like spending hours in the homes of victims, whereas Batman was always in a bit of a rush when he committed his crimes. isn't entering the garage attacking indoors? I think you are thinking too much within the confines of pseudoscientific police theory. Drop all that hogwash. The idea criminals do things the same way all the time is a myth. Batman was a rapist, he most likely raped inside houses as well as inside cars. I now tend to agree with you. I was getting too caught up in finding exact matches. This murder happened very nearby to Batman territory in 1978. Two youths were seen. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2652277.stm |
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Post by sammyt on Oct 27, 2021 1:51:34 GMT -8
More information about the 1978 murder of Beryl Culverwell... thetruecrimeenthusiast.co.uk/2017/08/28/who-was-the-widcombe-hill-killer/Widcombe Hill is right in the Batman comfort zone, next to Bathwick and Prior Park. I think Batman grew up in this area. Police in the 2000 Batman enquiry said that the perp may have links to Widcombe. Beryl was taken to her garage (like Batman victim 1). She was stabbed repeatedly with over-kill (like Shelley Morgan in 1984) and also bludgeoned (like Melanie Hall in 1996). Police suspect two offenders may have been involved (like in the Melanie Hall case). Batman attacked twice in the grounds of Bath University. Melanie attended Bath Uni from 1991-95. Another possible victim, Sharon Hoare was killed in London in 1991. Sharon was an escort, who moved to London from Bedminster, where Shelley was from. |
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Post by sammyt on Oct 27, 2021 2:30:57 GMT -8
Batman took tights with him as part of his rape kit, and sometimes made his victims put them on, so he could then rip them open.
On four occasions, Batman used a pink headband as a blindfold.
He must have been taking these items from his wife/girlfriend right?
Karl Stirk, who killed Yvonne Killian in Kent in 1998, also enjoyed ripping open tights.
Stirk can't have been Batman, but it shows that the tight ripping MO isn't unique.
When Stirk's girlfriend found that he had taken her tights, he told her that it was to 'feel closer to her'.
UK profiler Richard Badcock says that Stirk took the tights so he could "keep a romanticized aura, keep her on a pedestal, and therefore treat her in a false way".
According to Badcock, such offenders feel powerless in their relationships. They try to re-gain power by acting out relationships with strangers (victims) who they an control.
Such an offender wants "experiences that he can control" and so starts prowling to look for victims.
He may become a burglar, but "he's a burglar in the overall interests of being a prowler". He wants to watch women as he builds up the nerve to start approaching them in a particular and ultimately violent way.
I think Batman is such an offender - married, with a wife he has put on a pedestal, and compensating for his own weakness by trying to control strangers.
Like Stirk, Batman probably steals the items of clothing from his partner, and then uses them in his crimes to get back at her and re-gain power in his own weak mind.
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