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Post by nick on Feb 1, 2022 22:27:38 GMT -8
One of the things LE did in Sac County was to have the task force X-ray units assigned to a location when the call comes in after an EAR attack they would immediately response to locations and monitor passing cars. The idea was to cover all of the possible escape routes mostly freeway and main routes in the East Sacramento area. The problem is JJD would know this from monitoring the radio traffic and would use the laying over or waiting until the morning to go home after daylight.
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Post by nick on Feb 1, 2022 22:45:05 GMT -8
LE somehow became convinced EAR was using the Cordova Park (Hagan Park now) to exit along the bike trail. They sent many of the assets to this area on foot in plain clothes and even hidden in the bushes waiting for EAR to wander by. There is also a report of the placement of personnel in actual trees in and around the American River area. There are also reports of trail cameras (primitive) using film.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Feb 3, 2022 18:21:30 GMT -8
One of the things LE did in Sac County was to have the task force X-ray units assigned to a location when the call comes in after an EAR attack they would immediately response to locations and monitor passing cars. The idea was to cover all of the possible escape routes mostly freeway and main routes in the East Sacramento area. The problem is JJD would know this from monitoring the radio traffic and would use the laying over or waiting until the morning to go home after daylight. Also worth keeping in mind for other readers of this thread (which you already know, Nick), another problem catching EAR was the call didn't come in immediately after EAR left an attack scene. During his usual lengthy attack, EAR would continually be in and out of rooms, then in the backyard, then back inside to threaten the victim(s) not to move - such that the victims, each confined to a single room and told to be quiet or be killed, didn't know if he had left for good or not. They usually waited a certain amount of time before deciding he'd left and they could move freely. He might have even left the scene for good, quietly, out a window in the house they didn't yet know had been opened with its screen removed, pre-attack - as opposed to leaving out the back door (which he also usually left open so he could leave quietly.) After that, it took victims time to get the attention of a neighbor to call the police for them. Remember their own home phone lines had likely been cut by EAR - and they might have spent time trying to make the call themselves (either while still bound, or taking time to escape the bindings before attempting the call), before discovering their phone was down. All this bought time for EAR to escape far from the scene. Certainly, as you say, he monitored police radios and gained experience of the typical length of time between his leaving - until he heard the first dispatch of police to the attack scene.
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Post by nick on Feb 4, 2022 16:49:29 GMT -8
One of the things LE did in Sac County was to have the task force X-ray units assigned to a location when the call comes in after an EAR attack they would immediately response to locations and monitor passing cars. The idea was to cover all of the possible escape routes mostly freeway and main routes in the East Sacramento area. The problem is JJD would know this from monitoring the radio traffic and would use the laying over or waiting until the morning to go home after daylight. Also worth keeping in mind for other readers of this thread (which you already know, Nick), another problem catching EAR was the call didn't come in immediately after EAR left an attack scene. During his usual lengthy attack, EAR would continually be in and out of rooms, then in the backyard, then back inside to threaten the victim(s) not to move - such that the victims, each confined to a single room and told to be quiet or be killed, didn't know if he had left for good or not. They usually waited a certain amount of time before deciding he'd left and they could move freely. He might have even left the scene for good, quietly, out a window in the house they didn't yet know had been opened with its screen removed, pre-attack - as opposed to leaving out the back door (which he also usually left open so he could leave quietly.) After that, it took victims time to get the attention of a neighbor to call the police for them. Remember their own home phone lines had likely been cut by EAR - and they might have spent time trying to make the call themselves (either while still bound, or taking time to escape the bindings before attempting the call), before discovering their phone was down. All this bought time for EAR to escape far from the scene. Certainly, as you say, he monitored police radios and gained experience of the typical length of time between his leaving - until he heard the first dispatch of police to the attack scene. The delay in the victims freeing themselves is a huge problem and it is exactly why offenders tie up victims. The going away and coming back routine is also a problem the victims were not always sure JJD was gone.
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Post by nick on Feb 4, 2022 16:51:05 GMT -8
The cover the exits strategy would have worked great if it was a robbery that had just occurred but it was not.
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Post by nick on Feb 5, 2022 16:13:15 GMT -8
There were a number of officers deployed during the EAR series in plain clothes. They were also in unmarked units although I am not sure how unmarked they really are when they still look like a cop car. JJD could easily spot unmarked units and when he was in COCO County and they had set up the house they believed he would strike next he did not and went to an alternate location when he most likely saw they parked in a neighbors driveway. The number of plainclothes officers also contributed to the public sightings of suspicious persons in a given area.
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Post by nick on Feb 5, 2022 16:26:22 GMT -8
There were rumors that Sac SO had a couple of deputies pose as normal citizens in the Rancho area in an attempt to lure EAR into attacking them in a home being rented by LE. I can confirm this did happen but there is not much in the way of documentation to prove it. I have got the information from a trusted source who was there in the time frame and confirmed they tried. The undercover Deputies even had the female spend time outside in the front yard of the residence attempting to lure EAR into an attack. The female Deputy was selected for her appearance they believed she was EAR's type. There was a belief one way EAR was selecting victims from a chance meeting or perhaps he was driving through an area in search of victims. My understanding is the Deputies lived and stayed in this home waiting unfortunately it did not work. I was told there were a few nights when noises and movement outside were detected and units were immediately dispatched to set up a perimeter and either JJD slipped away or he was not there in the first place. Like I said before in this text there is not much in regards to documentation all I have gained on this was from people who were there at the time.
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Post by nick on Feb 5, 2022 16:46:04 GMT -8
There was also personnel who would park a vehicle in a given neighborhood and observe. I found one reference to this in a report where a sighting of an individual was seen lurking, from an unmarked unit (in this case it was a van) in the front yard of a residence. They gave chase but were unable to locate the man once they entered the backyard he was just gone.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Feb 5, 2022 23:50:27 GMT -8
There were a number of officers deployed during the EAR series in plain clothes. They were also in unmarked units although I am not sure how unmarked they really are when they still look like a cop car. JJD could easily spot unmarked units and when he was in COCO County and they had set up the house they believed he would strike next he did not and went to an alternate location when he most likely saw they parked in a neighbors driveway. The number of plainclothes officers also contributed to the public sightings of suspicious persons in a given area. Nick, do you know if any of SSO teams hunting EAR ever went radio silent - because they suspected EAR had a police radio, or some other reason? That's what Visalia PD finally resorted to in hunting the Visalia Ransacker in Dec. 1975 - and it worked - that night they surprised the VR, but he escaped after shooting at his would-be-arrester, Det. McGowen.
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Post by nick on Feb 9, 2022 17:12:53 GMT -8
There were a number of officers deployed during the EAR series in plain clothes. They were also in unmarked units although I am not sure how unmarked they really are when they still look like a cop car. JJD could easily spot unmarked units and when he was in COCO County and they had set up the house they believed he would strike next he did not and went to an alternate location when he most likely saw they parked in a neighbors driveway. The number of plainclothes officers also contributed to the public sightings of suspicious persons in a given area. Nick, do you know if any of SSO teams hunting EAR ever went radio silent - because they suspected EAR had a police radio, or some other reason? That's what Visalia PD finally resorted to in hunting the Visalia Ransacker in Dec. 1975 - and it worked - that night they surprised the VR, but he escaped after shooting at his would-be-arrester, Det. McGowen. I know LE was aware they could be monitored and they were told so many times to limit what they say on the radio. There were more reasons also the media was listening to the scanner as well. There was a tactic channel that could be used but it was not encrypted. The X-ray units (Task force) did not answer calls for service they mostly monitored the radio for calls that might be EAR related.
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Post by nick on Feb 28, 2022 18:15:10 GMT -8
I spoke to a retired Deputy who relayed the following story. The Deputy we will call Vince and this takes place doing the 1976-77 time frame when the task force was created. Vince said his partner at that time became convinced he knew where EAR was going to strike next and convinced Vince to come along for the ride. This was in the same Rancho Cordova neighborhood as attacks #1,#3, and the others (just for reference). Vince found himself at a home that was on the market for sale and was vacant. The other Deputy had got a key to the residence from the Real Estate Agent and they entered the house and scouted out the area. The Deputy declared EAR will come through this backyard and he was convinced it would happen tonight. Vince just went along with it and really there was no harm in trying to catch EAR. They waited all night in the dark with the windows open and laying down on the carpet just off the sliding patio door which was also open. They had a few things happen during the long night when the neighborhood dogs started barking and they were able to the dogs from far away in turn other dogs closer to their location then started to bark. We all know how it ends they did not catch him and they did come back three more nights that also ended the same way.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Mar 1, 2022 19:09:01 GMT -8
I spoke to a retired Deputy who relayed the following story. The Deputy we will call Vince and this takes place doing the 1976-77 time frame when the task force was created. Vince said his partner at that time became convinced he knew where EAR was going to strike next and convinced Vince to come along for the ride. This was in the same Rancho Cordova neighborhood as attacks #1,#3, and the others (just for reference). Vince found himself at a home that was on the market for sale and was vacant. The other Deputy had got a key to the residence from the Real Estate Agent and they entered the house and scouted out the area. The Deputy declared EAR will come through this backyard and he was convinced it would happen tonight. Vince just went along with it and really there was no harm in trying to catch EAR. They waited all night in the dark with the windows open and laying down on the carpet just off the sliding patio door which was also open. They had a few things happen during the long night when the neighborhood dogs started barking and they were able to the dogs from far away in turn other dogs closer to their location then started to bark. We all know how it ends they did not catch him and they did come back three more nights that also ended the same way. Could Vince remember if any EAR attacks happened during those four nights - in the audible barking dog range or elsewhere? (Especially the first night when the neighborhood dogs started barking.) I'm keeping in mind, even it no EAR attack happened that first night, it could have been EAR just prowling.
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Post by nick on Mar 4, 2022 17:29:09 GMT -8
I spoke to a retired Deputy who relayed the following story. The Deputy we will call Vince and this takes place doing the 1976-77 time frame when the task force was created. Vince said his partner at that time became convinced he knew where EAR was going to strike next and convinced Vince to come along for the ride. This was in the same Rancho Cordova neighborhood as attacks #1,#3, and the others (just for reference). Vince found himself at a home that was on the market for sale and was vacant. The other Deputy had got a key to the residence from the Real Estate Agent and they entered the house and scouted out the area. The Deputy declared EAR will come through this backyard and he was convinced it would happen tonight. Vince just went along with it and really there was no harm in trying to catch EAR. They waited all night in the dark with the windows open and laying down on the carpet just off the sliding patio door which was also open. They had a few things happen during the long night when the neighborhood dogs started barking and they were able to the dogs from far away in turn other dogs closer to their location then started to bark. We all know how it ends they did not catch him and they did come back three more nights that also ended the same way. Could Vince remember if any EAR attacks happened during those four nights - in the audible barking dog range or elsewhere? (Especially the first night when the neighborhood dogs started barking.) I'm keeping in mind, even it no EAR attack happened that first night, it could have been EAR just prowling. I just called him and asked if an attack had occurred while they were in that house and he said no. He also said he did not remember the exact time period other than it was "after the Sac PD case where Rodney Miller was shot but before the attack on Benny Way." He did not remember the dates so I told him it would have been between 2-17-77 and 3/18/77. The Miller shooting was 2-17-77 and then attack #15 is the one I believe he is referring to so that actually helps narrow it down. Vince did say they were not far from the Benny Way location but more importantly they were closer to Ellen brook Way which is where the bloodhounds tracked to after the attack. Vince also said he remembers they were at the house stake out (days or weeks) prior to the phone calls that dispatch received from the caller whom said he was the East side rapist. Again Vince did not remember the dates but he did remember those two events happening. There sure was a good chance it could have been JJD scouting the neighborhood when the dogs were barking but we will never know. I will say this attack #15 victim had reported hang up telephone calls a good 6 months prior to the attack so JJD may have already performed is stalking of this victim. Who knows it seems again JJD's luck saved him once more. That was a great question and I would not have asked it without you so thank you.
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Post by nick on Mar 4, 2022 17:31:00 GMT -8
One other quick note Vince's partner passed away 4 months ago so I missed that opportunity to speak to him myself.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Mar 5, 2022 0:17:02 GMT -8
According to the goldenstatekiller.com timeline, the three "I'm the East Side Rapist" ("Side", not "Area") calls to SCSO all happened in the late afternoon of the Benny Way attack #15 - at 4:15, 4:30, and 5:00. The call to the two sister victims, where they told the caller their parents were away for the weekend, just says "afternoon" for that day - but I'm guessing it happened before the three calls to SCSO. If I'm right, it would seemed JJD was emboldened by the fact that he was able to elicit the valuable-to-him information that the parents were away. I think we can be pretty sure it JJD who made those calls to SCSO given the time/location proximity of everything else. Nick, do you remember if any voice comparison questions were asked or answered by the two girl victims, as far as the JJD attack voice and voice of the afternoon caller's (even though you can guess he wasn't using his attack voice for the afternoon calls?) www.goldenstatekiller.com/timeline.phpIf you want to see all the attack 15 related events listed there, do a search for this: attack #15 (the first events listed there is where neighbors started receiving calls in the last half of January before the March attack.)
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