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Post by Pike-Admin on Jul 15, 2016 1:09:00 GMT -8
The first victim stated she heard voices in her living room after her assault, with a whisper followed up bu a much louder whisper saying "I told you to shut the Fuck up" What does this mean? after all this was his first attack I'm not sure he planned at that moment to become a serial rapist and needed the Police to think their were two of them. There is also thoughts the Maggiore murders may have been committed because the two suspect were seen preparing an attack and EAR and accomplish did not want it know there were two.
There were other victim's who reported car horns honking during an attack and even door bells being rung while the EAR was still inside their home.
I do not believe there were also two on each attack. I believe there were times when the Ear had an accomplish and used him as a lookout.
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Post by Loki on Jul 16, 2016 22:07:01 GMT -8
It stands to reason if the EAR was a young kid he may have had help in the first attack in order to nudge him along. He may have had a friend or relative that they had begun breaking into unoccupied homes together and it had progressed into a rape. The other person may not have had the same gusto And drive to commit rape and may have gone along with the first one to test the waters for themselves. EAR had a liking to the serial rapes and continued on without his help.
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Post by Cage on Jul 21, 2016 14:27:02 GMT -8
Yes I think that attack in Rancho when the weird neighbor guy showed up at crime scene with handful of Jewelry and he was really interested in what happened. I think LE said he was cleared by DNA but he still could have been the outside guy. He admitted he watched her all the time. I think LE should have pressed him more.
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Post by Pike-Admin on Jul 21, 2016 14:45:03 GMT -8
it was the 10/9/76 on El Segundo its also where EAR tied the door knobs with the clothesline from the backyard even though no one else was home. He must have known the family and the weird guy living behind here house watched her all the time he admitted that and knew her name even. I do not know of another attack off hand where he used rope to tie doorknobs with rope.
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Post by Pike-Admin on Jul 21, 2016 14:46:29 GMT -8
The key to this case is right in that area. Ear was living there or stayed there with that weird guy, he is tied to this and knows something.
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Post by Pike-Admin on Jul 21, 2016 14:51:42 GMT -8
He woke her up calling her name, he knew her name even though he had just climbing through her window. He could have been in that house prior to the attack but it could also be said he knew the weird guy who lived behind her house.
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Post by zipperhead on Jul 21, 2016 15:23:11 GMT -8
He had to be related to that guy somehow,Shelby's book calls his dorcus and then it never gets explained if he was DNA tested. It just stops in the book without an ending on how they eliminated him. If he even was eliminated at all. There was no neighborhood canvas, that's ridiculous they knew they had a serial at that time. It was right there near #1 and #3, LE totally blew it. EAR was right there in that neighborhood and they did not look for him.
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Post by Zack on Jul 21, 2016 17:04:31 GMT -8
It says in Crompton's book two suspects were under surveillance when the 7th attack rape occurred. The weird guy is named Tracy Earle and another guy named Walter Hamilton who was a neighbor of attack victim #3. They knocked on doors when the rape call came out and only Earle answered door the other guy's mother said he was asleep an slammed door in LE face. My question is how much time went by before victim #7 called police and did Earle have time to get home? I do not think they did DNA and just thought oh he's home it's not him. It could be Earle could still be the second guy, the look out. There's too many unanswered questions on those guys.
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Post by zack on Jul 21, 2016 17:11:26 GMT -8
Dorcus is clearly not a real name. I think LE under estimated that guy thinking he was a dork. I'm thinking he has a direct connection to EAR and knew who he was and they di not do their job and put pressure on him, thinking he was the suspect because he was home doesn't mean he was not the look out on the other rapes that occurred before that.
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Post by steven on Jul 22, 2016 8:34:11 GMT -8
It's so strange this guy would walk into a crime scene and into the living room to look around. He could have been the lookout on attack #1 since she said she had heard a possible conversation in her living room after her attack. That first attack EAR was not in the house long at all, he was nervous it was his first rape and I believe he had already been in the house so he did not need to rummage he had already done that part. The weird guy whatever you want to call him, Tracy Earle, may have had information about EAR and may have been trying to communicate that to Detectives when he showed at the house on attack #6. He may have had something wrong with him, in one of the books he is called a fruitcake by the Officer even so what he could have been was someone with a mental or retardation that causes them to think that. That could mean something, I do not think he was EAR but he might have seen or known something about EAR.
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Post by zack on Jul 29, 2016 19:15:42 GMT -8
I think that weirdo did know something... they didn't ask him so he said nothing
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Post by Pike-Admin on Aug 9, 2016 17:55:56 GMT -8
There were a few attacks where victim's reported strange activities, like #24 when a car horn heard four times and then the doorbell ringing followed up by someone knocking on the window: all of these things happening while EAR was still inside the home with the victim. The victim then reported right before EAR fled out the door hearing muffled voices in the front with a woman's voice also heard. After she heard those things EAR fled out the back sliding door.
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Post by formercop on Aug 15, 2016 17:34:39 GMT -8
The other rapist murders of the 1970's included male and female working together to take victims: so it is possible he found a female to help him in his assaults. Who knows what this sociopath was able to do and convince people he was not a rapist all these years, he is the person no one expects and has gone to great lengths to make sure of it.
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Post by steven on Aug 15, 2016 23:45:49 GMT -8
I think I read on another board there was talk of EAR being a protege of a serial rapist that was a registered sex offender who lived in Citrus Heights and when this person was a rapist in his younger years he had similar techniques. In the Shelby book when he saw that guy walking while he was waiting to get the word on a search warrant for another suspect, and followed the suspect out in to a field with his partner Sandy Carlson, a young Detective at the time at the time, right as they were going to confront him the radio call came in that the warrant was ready he chose not to engage the well dressed suspect. Shelby did say he regretted not contacting him but he was sure it would have been a gun battle and was concerned about safety. Anyway this area the suspect he wrote about was within walking distant to this registered sex offender's home and this may have been where the thought came from regarding EAR having a mentor and a teacher who taught him the ways of a seasoned rapist while he was a young age.
This is of course just something I'm repeating, there is no proof like most theories on the boards, they are are just thoughts but could be true would explain a few things and the common MO is what's interesting to me. I have the sex offenders name but I'm reluctant to post it: I can say this I figured it out on my own by looking at names of offenders and reading Shelby's book so I can not imagine I'm the only one to do that.
Happy hunting to anyone who looks!
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Post by zack on Aug 16, 2016 13:31:50 GMT -8
I think he had a close friend or relative in the first attack at least and then on an occasional other attack he had a ride along. The person may have through he was just burglarizing and maybe did not know he was a rapist at first; or they were pushing each other into going through with the rape. It may have been a game they were playing at first a role playing where they planned every detail out and it was a game at first and then turned into a reality that night in June, 1976. That may have been the argument the victim heard in her living room. There is always the possibility he was talking to himself but I don't know if he had decided that night he was going to be a serial rapist and wanted to lay ground work for insanity if he got caught. I think it's more probable there was a second person who he let in through the front door so he could experience the thrill as well.
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