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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 14:31:26 GMT -8
There is, of course, the matter of Sharon not divorcing JJD after all of the years living apart. It could be a tax reason or is it due to what she knows regarding JJD and exposing herself to potential lawsuits if he were caught. I will always have a hard time believing she was married to him all those years and didn't notice "some" things.
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Post by nick on Jan 20, 2020 17:52:04 GMT -8
There is, of course, the matter of Sharon not divorcing JJD after all of the years living apart. It could be a tax reason or is it due to what she knows regarding JJD and exposing herself to potential lawsuits if he were caught. I will always have a hard time believing she was married to him all those years and didn't notice "some" things. I agree. Sharron made it through school so she was not clueless or unintelligent and there had to be a couple habits that did not go unnoticed. I am in no way suggesting she knew while the crimes were occurring up to the point when the press blackout ended after #8. Sharon would have information provided by the media after attack #8 that might have lead her to questions about JJD's behaviors or habits. I could be be completely wrong I am comparing my marriage to Sharon and Joe's and I personally can not see how it did not occur.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jan 20, 2020 23:42:45 GMT -8
Speculative idea - could the Goleta connection be related to diving? I understand JJD was a diver and a welder; Santa Barbara Community College (SBCC) had/has a reputable diving school; the oil rigs off the coast of Santa Barbara might have provided opportunities for workers with a combination of welding/diving skills. In the period following his dismissal from LE drawing upon existing skills in other areas with good earning potentials might have appealed to him. I have unsuccessfully tried to track down any diving/welding certificates he might have gained at SBCC. Any ideas for verification/elimination of this scenario? I've thought that same thought since I found out that SBCC has such a renowned and unique community college program - and it has been so since 1968. I'm guessing he knew about the program because of his diving experience, and he might have made his way to the college if only to sit in on the classes just to talk to instructors to see about who was hiring locally (he could have sat in on classes for the first couple of weeks without ever registering.) Note that Paul Holes has said that he'd heard JJD was supposedly diving/fixing sump pumps for PG&E during that time - PG&E's service area goes as far south as the northern part of Santa Barbara county (according to Wikipedia), but not quite down to the city of Santa Barbara/Goleta .
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Post by griswoldeerie on Jan 24, 2020 15:14:05 GMT -8
Bonnie did say that reflecting back on her unforunate time with Joe that he ripped out guts of a bird, which is how you field dress, but I dont know the context of the event, which could have been a sadistic act, or hunting procedure, or both. She also said he killed a cat or dog, I dont remember which. But my point is maybe Sharon witnessed these type of behaviors too. More than likely she did, at the least. At the most, she knew everything. If he was walking in the back yard swearing at every blade of grass I imagine that could have been part of their reason for divorce. Maybe he killed when he found out she was pregnant because he didnt want kids and only saw it as a necessity for appearing functional in society and the cracks appeared later on and she thought this guy is an asshole. Hard to say. I bet she knew illegal stuff was going on because where did he fence all his loot? Therefore, he must have had an accomplice for all that stuff.
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Post by griswoldeerie on Jan 24, 2020 15:59:05 GMT -8
Speculative idea - could the Goleta connection be related to diving? I understand JJD was a diver and a welder; Santa Barbara Community College (SBCC) had/has a reputable diving school; the oil rigs off the coast of Santa Barbara might have provided opportunities for workers with a combination of welding/diving skills. In the period following his dismissal from LE drawing upon existing skills in other areas with good earning potentials might have appealed to him. I have unsuccessfully tried to track down any diving/welding certificates he might have gained at SBCC. Any ideas for verification/elimination of this scenario? Note that Paul Holes has said that he'd heard JJD was supposedly diving/fixing sump pumps for PG&E during that time - PG&E's service area goes as far south as the northern part of Santa Barbara county (according to Wikipedia), but not quite down to the city of Santa Barbara/Goleta . I wondered awhile ago how did he use his diving job to facilitate offending(murder), because it wasnt as mundane a job as diesel mechanic, which was less strenuous obviously, as he got older(and still offending). Was he able to dispose of victims in the course of that job via diving? He may have fished in his stupid scary boat later on where some sump pump jobs (and victim bodies?)were and fished there at the same locations to reminisce similiar to when he flew out of a neighbor's garage on a bike to reminisce about the Queen Anne lane attack? Maybe?
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Post by nick on Jan 29, 2020 12:10:20 GMT -8
Bonnie did say that reflecting back on her unforunate time with Joe that he ripped out guts of a bird, which is how you field dress, but I dont know the context of the event, which could have been a sadistic act, or hunting procedure, or both. She also said he killed a cat or dog, I dont remember which. But my point is maybe Sharon witnessed these type of behaviors too. More than likely she did, at the least. At the most, she knew everything. If he was walking in the back yard swearing at every blade of grass I imagine that could have been part of their reason for divorce. Maybe he killed when he found out she was pregnant because he didnt want kids and only saw it as a necessity for appearing functional in society and the cracks appeared later on and she thought this guy is an asshole. Hard to say. I bet she knew illegal stuff was going on because where did he fence all his loot? Therefore, he must have had an accomplice for all that stuff. There is of course a strong chance JJD was selling at least some of the things he took from victims in my opinion if for no other reason to have more money he would have to provide to Sharon since he used the working excuse (likely in my opinion) for being gone all of the time.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jan 30, 2020 19:00:40 GMT -8
Ms. Huddle passed the bar in 82. The math says the prior years were spent in Sacramento. The one time I was in her old office at Fair Oaks and Fulton (1993), I noted her diploma from Sac State was dated in 76. The alumni cd rom confirms this. I doubt seriously if she was living full time or part time anywhere in Tulare County in 73 to late 75. We can speculate until the cows come home what if any she knew or did not know? I give it all a 50/50 chance from the get go. A lot of us have had contact with lawyers who, if they were not lawyers would be considered pretty dark and scary souls. Her daughter who had a child with a convicted thug, was a “fruit not far from the tree.” Scary people to the point even their boat was named “scary.” Ask yourself this question? Why did she change her professional profile to “De Angelo” after his arrest? From every angle of the lenses, it is all disturbingly dysfunctional and if you ever met her? ...you would understand! Do you know enough about the "convicted thug" son-in-law to know if his crimes would have landed his DNA in the CODIS database? When was the conviction? Not that it would have caught JJD - not blood related, obviously - but just curious. If JJD hadn't been caught, it might have yielded a hit far in the future perhaps OK, this possibility is maybe too remote to think about, but still I'm curious. I'm guessing there will be crimes solved many decades old, in the future when a descendant (a few generations distant even) of a perpetrator gets arrested - if genetic geneology doesn't get there first. EDIT: actually, the combination of that future hit (if it's in the ancestral range of future familial DNA searches), plus genetic geneology will probably be needed to nab the perp, now that I think about it.
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Post by steelbike on Feb 6, 2020 18:37:41 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 19:18:35 GMT -8
Holy smokes wow
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Post by steelbike on Feb 7, 2020 16:52:06 GMT -8
He looks like the friggin Joker. Attachments:
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Post by steelbike on Feb 7, 2020 17:09:31 GMT -8
I can’t find the photo of JJD’s father with his squad — he looks like a nasty SOB even holding the little doggie on his lap. I wonder why it was him chosen to hold the squad’s mascot. Was everyone afraid of him? I wonder if JJD sr and Clarence Huddle knew each other.
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