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Post by dougguard on Apr 5, 2020 14:46:49 GMT -8
Well! We all know what times we are in now. In my daily walks with my dog, I unavoidably need to be near the County Jail. I have noticed an increase in emergency medical response to the jail. This has increased significantly since the onset of this crisis. They have a procedure of the Paramedics and Firefighters arriving at the 6th Street Sallyport door to transfer the inmates. I often wonder will JJD be the next on a gurney? Perhaps having chest compressions administered? I do ponder this as the virus makes its way into the local jail population. Date I think it as I listen and see the increasing arrival and departure of sick inmates. I often walk past the old and repurposed Hall of Justice located just north of the County Jail. In 1965 the ground floor housed the City Emergency Aid Station. The loading ramp is still there. A patient was delivered there after being nearly electrocuted while checking his musical equipment at Memorial Auditorium. That patient survived because the on duty Physician just happened to be skilled in reviving critically ill patients. That patient happened to be Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones. This “near death electric shot disfigured Richards face to this day. I always thought of that when I walked past the building on 6th Street. Now, I just think of the next inmate being carted off... and wondering if it could be JJD?
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Apr 6, 2020 21:45:00 GMT -8
Well! We all know what times we are in now. In my daily walks with my dog, I unavoidably need to be near the County Jail. I have noticed an increase in emergency medical response to the jail. This has increased significantly since the onset of this crisis. They have a procedure of the Paramedics and Firefighters arriving at the 6th Street Sallyport door to transfer the inmates. I often wonder will JJD be the next on a gurney? Perhaps having chest compressions administered? I do ponder this as the virus makes its way into the local jail population. Date I think it as I listen and see the increasing arrival and departure of sick inmates. I often walk past the old and repurposed Hall of Justice located just north of the County Jail. In 1965 the ground floor housed the City Emergency Aid Station. The loading ramp is still there. A patient was delivered there after being nearly electrocuted while checking his musical equipment at Memorial Auditorium. That patient survived because the on duty Physician just happened to be skilled in reviving critically ill patients. That patient happened to be Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones. This “near death electric shot disfigured Richards face to this day. I always thought of that when I walked past the building on 6th Street. Now, I just think of the next inmate being carted off... and wondering if it could be JJD? Hopefully the coronavirus protective gear and testing kit availability will ramp in time to make it more preventable than likely in the jail population. Here's a Sac Bee article about the Keith Richards incident: www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article161670488.html
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Post by nick on Apr 7, 2020 12:35:35 GMT -8
Well! We all know what times we are in now. In my daily walks with my dog, I unavoidably need to be near the County Jail. I have noticed an increase in emergency medical response to the jail. This has increased significantly since the onset of this crisis. They have a procedure of the Paramedics and Firefighters arriving at the 6th Street Sallyport door to transfer the inmates. I often wonder will JJD be the next on a gurney? Perhaps having chest compressions administered? I do ponder this as the virus makes its way into the local jail population. Date I think it as I listen and see the increasing arrival and departure of sick inmates. I often walk past the old and repurposed Hall of Justice located just north of the County Jail. In 1965 the ground floor housed the City Emergency Aid Station. The loading ramp is still there. A patient was delivered there after being nearly electrocuted while checking his musical equipment at Memorial Auditorium. That patient survived because the on duty Physician just happened to be skilled in reviving critically ill patients. That patient happened to be Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones. This “near death electric shot disfigured Richards face to this day. I always thought of that when I walked past the building on 6th Street. Now, I just think of the next inmate being carted off... and wondering if it could be JJD? I never knew the Keith Richards incident was at the Memorial Auditorium. They better keep that bastard alive and as health as they can I have a ton of questions still!!!
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Post by jenn on Apr 15, 2020 19:59:04 GMT -8
Well! We all know what times we are in now. In my daily walks with my dog, I unavoidably need to be near the County Jail. I have noticed an increase in emergency medical response to the jail. This has increased significantly since the onset of this crisis. They have a procedure of the Paramedics and Firefighters arriving at the 6th Street Sallyport door to transfer the inmates. I often wonder will JJD be the next on a gurney? Perhaps having chest compressions administered? I do ponder this as the virus makes its way into the local jail population. Date I think it as I listen and see the increasing arrival and departure of sick inmates. I often walk past the old and repurposed Hall of Justice located just north of the County Jail. In 1965 the ground floor housed the City Emergency Aid Station. The loading ramp is still there. A patient was delivered there after being nearly electrocuted while checking his musical equipment at Memorial Auditorium. That patient survived because the on duty Physician just happened to be skilled in reviving critically ill patients. That patient happened to be Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones. This “near death electric shot disfigured Richards face to this day. I always thought of that when I walked past the building on 6th Street. Now, I just think of the next inmate being carted off... and wondering if it could be JJD? Great historical facts, Doug. Thank you for sharing!
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Post by dougguard on Apr 16, 2020 6:43:17 GMT -8
Please forgive me if I stray too far from the subject matter. I have no problem sharing this regions history because in some respects, it does pertain to the conditions of crime to this day.
The City of Sacramento of 1965 was for many reasons, completely different from 1964. For instance: The City of North Sacramento was disbanded and absorbed or annexed into Sacramento including Del Paso Heights and many neighborhoods in the south of the city. This nearly doubled the population and created friction that exists to this day. North Sacramento was the largest incorporated city to be disbanded and annexed in the modern history of California.
JJD had already enlisted in the Navy in this by itself begs inquiries because he was raised as an Air Force dependent and would have somewhat of an advantage. Rancho was pretty small and Mather Air Force along with Aerojet provided a strong middle class ambiance. I suspect the De Angelo family got “relocated “ when U.S. 50 required the demolishing of numerous homes.
Another suspicion for the trek into the Navy is that JJD may of committed some type of misconduct that was handled by the Air Force and required his dropping out of high school? Just a suspicion folks and nothing more. In Rancho Cordova, attempts at making this area a prosperous city have at best, produced mixed results. In the 80’s, massive corporate campuses were built with the aim of attracting high tech giants and this ultimately failed even though Western El Dorado County just minutes away, offered some of the best living accommodations in the West.
With the massive apartment complexes catering to low rent and an influx of poverty made most of Rancho undesirable to the Technology of the computer age. Large tracts of land have now been set aside and paved in the hopes of attracting thousands of new second home buyers but this effort has been stalled for the last decade. Rancho is where JJD came of age and returned not as a resident but as a predator terrorizing the very community where as a young man, he slipped through and walked eyes that should have taken note of his dark potential.
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Post by jenn on Apr 17, 2020 21:47:35 GMT -8
Since we're talking jjd and Sac history, take a look at 1973 when he was committing sexual assaults in Placer County while he interned with the Roseville Police Dept. That same year that train load of bombs blew up in the rail yards in Roseville. www.sacbee.com/news/local/history/article145902054.html
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Post by murderinc on Apr 17, 2020 23:14:17 GMT -8
btw JJD likely started June 19 1972. put this up last year but no one cared
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Post by jenn on Apr 18, 2020 17:09:44 GMT -8
Murder, would you please post the date and the name of the newspaper in which this article appeared? Thank you.
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Post by murderinc on Apr 18, 2020 18:23:19 GMT -8
Roseville Press Tribune June 8 1972 front page
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Post by dougguard on May 5, 2020 2:53:04 GMT -8
Other tidbits of the times. 1973 was The year Sac State changed Police Science to Criminal Justice. Until recently, that department was located in an original building when the site was a Naval Communications Station closed in 1955. Most of the property in that area was donated to the college by an eccentric millionaire named Charles M. Goethe who owned thousands of acres of privately held property, most of which he donated back to the public. Goethe, was a eugenics believer who espoused race superiority and the community is now erasing his contributions and legend in Sacramento.
Most of the professors back then at Sac State were Old School Criminology types and mostly unapologetic white males. In 1973 the MDSO classified homosexuality as a mental diseases and deviates prosecuted as sex offenders. There is a very good chance DeAngelo rubbed shoulders with numerous law enforcement officers who were being paid salary time to earn that degree. I do believe that his time at Sac State is relevant for a couple of different reasons. First, he graduated with a B.S. in Criminal Justice which meant he had to take at least 12 upper division courses in the hard sciences of the field. This meant fingerprints, crime scene investigation, photography, laboratory, ballistics, and so forth. He was quite skilled in the art of “Police Science” and I believe this helped him elude capture and confuse investigators. Perhaps this time at Sac State is where he understood his own demons and honed his hatred of women.
His graduate work may also be key to where his mind was in the particular courses he was taking after graduation?
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Post by johnnyhands1 on May 5, 2020 19:33:44 GMT -8
Other tidbits of the times. 1973 was The year Sac State changed Police Science to Criminal Justice. Until recently, that department was located in an original building when the site was a Naval Communications Station closed in 1955. Most of the property in that area was donated to the college by an eccentric millionaire named Charles M. Goethe who owned thousands of acres of privately held property, most of which he donated back to the public. Goethe, was a eugenics believer who espoused race superiority and the community is now erasing his contributions and legend in Sacramento. Most of the professors back then at Sac State were Old School Criminology types and mostly unapologetic white males. In 1973 the MDSO classified homosexuality as a mental diseases and deviates prosecuted as sex offenders. There is a very good chance DeAngelo rubbed shoulders with numerous law enforcement officers who were being paid salary time to earn that degree. I do believe that his time at Sac State is relevant for a couple of different reasons. First, he graduated with a B.S. in Criminal Justice which meant he had to take at least 12 upper division courses in the hard sciences of the field. This meant fingerprints, crime scene investigation, photography, laboratory, ballistics, and so forth. He was quite skilled in the art of “Police Science” and I believe this helped him elude capture and confuse investigators. Perhaps this time at Sac State is where he understood his own demons and honed his hatred of women. His graduate work may also be key to where his mind was in the particular courses he was taking after graduation? Are those college catalogues still online somewhere? Here's a project with regard to the Sac State student newspaper, The Daily Hornet, where the archives will soon be online. I don't think they've finished it, but it's supposed to be done this year: statehornet.com/2019/04/70-years-of-the-state-hornet-catalogued-in-sac-state-exhibit/"The team is currently aiming for full accessibility to the digitized content by 2020, which will be available on the California Revealed website, the California Digital Newspaper Collection, as well as Sac State’s own archive site." Not that I think there will be much, if anything, about Deangelo himself in those archives, but you never know.
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Post by jenn on May 6, 2020 18:12:36 GMT -8
Johnny, Regarding the college catalogues, I haven't checked the Sac State ones but I did go over to Sierra College in Rocklin and Professor Joe Medeiros was more than happy to share them with me. Joe has been there a looooong time and he is the official historian. I pulled the 1968, 1969, 1970 and 1971 catalogues. LA Times also reviewed those catalogues as well. One thing that caught our eye was that AMAZING Grateful Dead concert that was held there on May 3, 1969. It was never mentioned in the LA Times series because jjd never took Bonnie to that concert. Also, regarding obtaining copies of jjd's college records, those records will be available AFTER 100 years has passed so that would be 2070. If any of you are around the, feel free to obtain copies. I've obtained copies of other people's college records but the criteria is that the records must be MORE THAN 100 YEARS old. Most colleges go by that date.
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