jenn
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Post by jenn on Dec 12, 2019 22:02:00 GMT -8
Copied from Winters post one year ago
BALLISTICS
winters: "Details on the ballistics are available for all murders, but the Maggiore and Ripon shootings are part of an active lead at the moment.
• Offerman/Manning: The killer had used a .38 caliber revolver (probably a Smith and Wesson) loaded with Supervel brand, .38 caliber ammunition with 110 grain jacketed bullets. The weapon had five lands and grooves with a right twist and a land-width of .097/.099. This didn’t match any known case, and it didn’t match any of the past or future EARONS cases.
• Domingo/Sanchez: Sanchez had been shot with a .158 grain, .38 caliber bullet, most likely fired from a .357 or .38 caliber handgun. The weapon used in this case had 8 lands and grooves with a right-hand twist and a land-width of .054/.056. The firearm manufacturer could not be conclusively determined, but was possibly a Charter Arms (either the .38 Undercover Model or the Target Bulldog model). This didn’t match any known case, and it didn’t match any of the past or future EARONS cases.
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Knowing that jjd stole 4 hand guns on December 26, 1976 from one of the homes in the Rocklin string of burglaries, it makes me wonder if one of those handguns was used in ANY of the shootings, including Maggiores, Rodney Miller, Offerman/Manning or Domingo/Sanchez.
The handguns stolen from one residence in Rocklin include:
1. .38 Colt pistol
2. Ruger .38 revolver
3. Ruger .22 pistol
4. Berretta .25 caliber automatic handgun
Two rifles were also stolen in that same burglary along with one of his favorite items...... a clock radio. Him and those STUPID clock radios!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 2:56:48 GMT -8
Knowing that jjd stole 4 hand guns on December 26, 1976 from one of the homes in the Rocklin string of burglaries, it makes me wonder if one of those handguns was used in ANY of the shootings, including Maggiores, Rodney Miller, Offerman/Manning or Domingo/Sanchez. The handguns stolen from one residence in Rocklin include: 1. .38 Colt pistol 2. Ruger .38 revolver 3. Ruger .22 pistol 4. Berretta .25 caliber automatic handgun Two rifles were also stolen in that same burglary along with one of his favorite items...... a clock radio. Him and those STUPID clock radios!!! Jenn, in your opinion, do you think it was JJD who shot Rodney Miller? Yeah, those clock radios. He must have had quite a collection at one point. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 13:49:42 GMT -8
During his time as a cop he probably would have had access to confiscated weapons, not sure how closely those were tracked after being taken into evidence. With that and the burglaries he could have accumulated a number of weapons that could be used and then discarded.
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Post by magnumforce73 on Dec 15, 2019 7:31:29 GMT -8
Copied from Winters post one year ago BALLISTICS winters: "Details on the ballistics are available for all murders, but the Maggiore and Ripon shootings are part of an active lead at the moment. • Offerman/Manning: The killer had used a .38 caliber revolver (probably a Smith and Wesson) loaded with Supervel brand, .38 caliber ammunition with 110 grain jacketed bullets. The weapon had five lands and grooves with a right twist and a land-width of .097/.099. This didn’t match any known case, and it didn’t match any of the past or future EARONS cases. • Domingo/Sanchez: Sanchez had been shot with a .158 grain, .38 caliber bullet, most likely fired from a .357 or .38 caliber handgun. The weapon used in this case had 8 lands and grooves with a right-hand twist and a land-width of .054/.056. The firearm manufacturer could not be conclusively determined, but was possibly a Charter Arms (either the .38 Undercover Model or the Target Bulldog model). This didn’t match any known case, and it didn’t match any of the past or future EARONS cases. " Knowing that jjd stole 4 hand guns on December 26, 1976 from one of the homes in the Rocklin string of burglaries, it makes me wonder if one of those handguns was used in ANY of the shootings, including Maggiores, Rodney Miller, Offerman/Manning or Domingo/Sanchez. The handguns stolen from one residence in Rocklin include: 1. .38 Colt pistol 2. Ruger .38 revolver 3. Ruger .22 pistol 4. Berretta .25 caliber automatic handgun Two rifles were also stolen in that same burglary along with one of his favorite items...... a clock radio. Him and those STUPID clock radios!!! .38 Special makes plenty of appearances in the saga. It was a ubiquitous cartridge in those days--both for police officers and for civilians, and the same is true today. Based on victim and witness descriptions, a recurring image that kept itself at the forefront: short-barreled sixguns (snubnoses). It makes sense for him to use such a firearm in the commission of these kinds of crimes: he's doing lots of running, cycling, climbing, etc.; it's easier to secure a smaller handgun on one's person or in a bag and engage in such physical exertion than to do it with an unwieldy long-barreled handgun. The snubnose was useful for him, too, in that his crimes were up close and personal--he wasn't doing any long-distance shooting; if he was forced to open fire as a last resort to save himself, he was doing it during instances in which he was shooting at his victims at or close to pointblank range--Goleta II & III, Snelling and McGowen (Tulare Co.), and presumably the Maggiores. A snubnose revolver is also harder to rip out of an attacker's hand--as opposed to a longer-barreled pistol which could suddenly and surprisingly (for joey) being ripped out of the attacker's hand and turned on him. Charter Arms was probably best known for their snubnose revolvers--David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz favored a Charter Arms Bulldog chambered in .44 Spl. for his murders in Queens, Bronx, and Brooklyn, N.Y. in 76/77. The other reason .38 Spl. makes as many appearances as it does is because it can be fired through handguns chambered for .357 Magnum--thus allowing for a bit of versatility, and the ability to shoot lighter (less powerful) .38 rounds if so desired. Please note, however: while .38 Spl. ammo can be shot through handguns chambered for .357 Mag., the opposite is not true--you don't want to be the hand holding a .38 caliber pistol that attempts to fire .357 Mag. rounds unless of course you don't want that hand anymore. This is also true with .44 Spl./.44 Mag.: a sixgun chambered in .44 Remington Magnum will happily shoot .44 Special rounds, but do not attempt to fire full house .44 Mag. rounds through a sixgun chambered for .44 Spl.--the higher pressure .44 Mag. round will literally blow up the pistol in the shooter's hand. The firearms question(s) is intriguing because we know he was a firearms enthusiast, and especially during the Visalia phase and the Sacramento EAR phase, he was working as a police officer--he could acquire ammo on his own several different ways, or he could have helped himself to ammo from Exeter P.D.'s or Auburn P.D.'s armory; the swiping of ammo from the department armory is something I would never put past him. I don't believe he stole firearms during the burglaries because he wanted to pawn/fence them--I believe he stole them to use in the commission of his other crimes; he could later dump these weapons--since they were stolen, they would never be traced back to him, and they'd also conveniently point pursuing investigators in the direction of their rightful owners which fits very nicely with 99's excellent framing theory. I'd be curious to know if he owns a reloading press--either during his EAR/ONS activity, or even later (up to his arrest). mf73 |
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