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Post by nick on Jul 10, 2022 16:14:27 GMT -8
Before I post this woman's story she relayed to me I am trying to vet her but it is very difficult. I can't see how I can confirm the story other than her being in the same geographic area in the same time period as JJD. Thus far she has proven to be at Mills Jr High in that time period and then Folsom High School. I am still working on a few other things.
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Post by nick on Jul 15, 2022 9:06:03 GMT -8
The latest update on this thread. As far as I can tell this woman has had some mental health challenges as an adult. What does that mean? I don't know. Does it mean the story she told me is false? I don't that either. There are not that many people reading this so if anyone wants to weigh in now is the time. Do I just post what she told me or leave it alone? I can always post it with a disclaimer that there is no way for me to confirm or deny the story and post it as is.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jul 15, 2022 16:42:53 GMT -8
I say post it, with a strong disclaimer, copied-and-pasted in every post where you give new information - as simple as WARNING: STORY NOT VERIFIED - that's clear enough. You may only have to do it once if you only have one post's worth of her story (or even just once because you only feel like doing it once.)
Perhaps your interview subject's story can be bolstered or rebutted be someone else in the future. There are still people alive who knew him in school. They may come forward, especially to an independent person like yourself with a small audience, now that the media blitz is over and a whole lot less people are interested.
There was the woman in Visalia who came forward immediately after the JJD arrest - who claimed to be stopped by Officer JJD in 1974 at age 13, picked up for truancy, then sexually assaulted in his squad car. She seems to have an unusual personality. 12-26-75 says they've talked to her and checked her story out and believe her.
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Post by zack on Jul 15, 2022 21:43:36 GMT -8
Yeah, post it. I'm just curious.
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Post by steven on Jul 15, 2022 21:45:04 GMT -8
I say yes post it. Sometimes even when lying people have some truth within the story.
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Post by Yoda Driver on Jul 15, 2022 21:47:22 GMT -8
Hell yeah, post it!! who cares if its not true or even if the lady is a nutbag it's interesting to me. If DeAngelo doesn't like it he can't tell us the truth. lol
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Post by Pike-Admin on Jul 16, 2022 13:28:45 GMT -8
Just post it! I'm interested either way.
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Post by formercop on Jul 16, 2022 21:39:27 GMT -8
Yeah do it, at the very least it will be entertaining into the mind of a person of similar age and in the same time frame of JJD.
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Post by nick on Jul 22, 2022 18:25:46 GMT -8
Janet (not her real name) gave me many stories and tried to include way too much detail at times that I had to stop her. Janet believes the details are important in the sex acts I disagree so I am going to heavily edit what she told me for all our sakes. Janet and myself disagree on what is important throughout the stories. Here is one of them:
Janet stated she and JJD were involved on and off and it almost sounds to me like she was a hidden girlfriend or someone JJD might not want to associate with when it comes to his friends and family. All of the stories seem to only involve the two of them and happened away from JJD's home and did not include any of his friends with the exception of Greg (see the other thread) she knew Greg's real name which I did not post. For whatever that is worth she knew Greg's real name and where he lived that being said they both could be lying. Janet claims to not have had any contact with Greg as an adult just when they were kids.
Janet shared this story when she and JJD were out near a strip mall she was not sure if it was in the Zindandal area or Mills Center but it was one of them. It was the daytime most likely in the early afternoon when JJD made his move and began kissing her. Janet claims he was not very good at it and seemed like it might have been his time kissing a girl. She claimed she felt uncomfortable kissing and touching in the open so JJD suggested they do along the side of the building behind the bushes and continue. Janet stated they were up against the building and there were bushes at the curb area that would have blocked them from anyone in the parking lot. Janet said she remembers it because she had on a white pair of shorts that JDD had commented on a few days before that he really liked on her because they were white and had buttons up the front of them. I had a strong edit here because she was providing too much detail but she seemed to be wanting to demonstrate that JJD had a fetish for white shorts and the fact they were kissing and groping each other in a public place. They did not have intercourse but he digitally penetrated her and she described him as being very aroused.
So, what we have is risky behavior in a public area in or around the middle school period time for JJD (if Janet is believed). Janet also claimed the white shorts seemed to become important in later sexual encounters with JJD to the level of a fetish again this is if Janet is truthful. This is one tale from Janet there are more.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jul 22, 2022 20:18:35 GMT -8
So far, there's nothing unbelievable in Janet's story. I will assume she's telling the truth, until I have a reason not to.
Here's another JJD front pants' buttons incident.
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Liz Silva traveled to Sacramento immediately after the arrest. She claimed to the media to have been picked up by a uniformed-with-squad-car JJD in Visalia as a truant at age 13 in 1974, taken to an unpopulated area, then raped and left there. Among other things, she claimed he ripped her pants' front buttons off during the attack and kept them before driving off - and, as revealed to me in the new "12-26-75" book, she had to walk 7 miles home holding her pants up as she walked.
Out of respect for the victim, I'll let you read book to get more on her story than has been given on the podcast. 12-26-75 says everything Ms. Silva told them checks out and they believe her. Three pages worth, Ch. 14, page 336 in the paperback, or just search for Silva in the ebook version (amazon/kindle - only $5.99 for the ebook.)
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Post by nick on Jul 30, 2022 20:26:31 GMT -8
So far, there's nothing unbelievable in Janet's story. I will assume she's telling the truth, until I have a reason not to. Here's another JJD front pants' buttons incident. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Liz Silva traveled to Sacramento immediately after the arrest. She claimed to the media to have been picked up by a uniformed-with-squad-car JJD in Visalia as a truant at age 13 in 1974, taken to an unpopulated area, then raped and left there. Among other things, she claimed he ripped her pants' front buttons off during the attack and kept them before driving off - and, as revealed to me in the new "12-26-75" book, she had to walk 7 miles home holding her pants up as she walked. Out of respect for the victim, I'll let you read book to get more on her story than has been given on the podcast. 12-26-75 says everything Ms. Silva told them checks out and they believe her. Three pages worth, Ch. 14, page 336 in the paperback, or just search for Silva in the ebook version (amazon/kindle - only $5.99 for the ebook.) I looked directly into her eyes and I believe her. I just want everyone to know I can't proof or disproof with hard evidence. I believe her like any rape victim ever interviewed although she did not claim rape in the sense of the law. She was feeling forced in other sex encounters but she herself admitted she submitted because she wanted to.
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Post by nick on Jul 30, 2022 20:30:18 GMT -8
So far, there's nothing unbelievable in Janet's story. I will assume she's telling the truth, until I have a reason not to. Here's another JJD front pants' buttons incident. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Liz Silva traveled to Sacramento immediately after the arrest. She claimed to the media to have been picked up by a uniformed-with-squad-car JJD in Visalia as a truant at age 13 in 1974, taken to an unpopulated area, then raped and left there. Among other things, she claimed he ripped her pants' front buttons off during the attack and kept them before driving off - and, as revealed to me in the new "12-26-75" book, she had to walk 7 miles home holding her pants up as she walked. Out of respect for the victim, I'll let you read book to get more on her story than has been given on the podcast. 12-26-75 says everything Ms. Silva told them checks out and they believe her. Three pages worth, Ch. 14, page 336 in the paperback, or just search for Silva in the ebook version (amazon/kindle - only $5.99 for the ebook.) Combining the two stories with the fixation on the buttons is very interesting. Janet stated JJD had a very strong interest in those white shorts with buttons in the front and it was during his forming years sexually. I did not know about what you posted before writing that up.
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Post by nick on Jul 30, 2022 20:31:28 GMT -8
Janet's stories have even more meaning than before.
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Post by nick on Jul 30, 2022 20:33:57 GMT -8
One other thing that I want to post about quickly is Janet did state they would have sex and then minutes later JJD would want to do the act once more. She complained of being sore from repeated acts over and over.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jul 31, 2022 2:56:54 GMT -8
One other thing that I want to post about quickly is Janet did state they would have sex and then minutes later JJD would want to do the act once more. She complained of being sore from repeated acts over and over. That's the exact same thing JJD's ex-fiancee Bonnie relayed to the interviewer on the "Man In The Window" podcast about the repeated sex. She said he said he had trained himself to control his orgasm or something like that. You can hear this in episode "Bonnie and Joe", starting about 15 minutes in (the surrogate family's "Judy" is also in this episode and tells about the prowler outside her bedroom window she now suspects was Deangelo): podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/man-in-the-window-the-golden-state-killer/id1465334342?i=1000442655513
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