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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 7:43:11 GMT -8
"Mr. Avocado and the Paul Holes calendars" Goldrusher, what is that to which you are referring? Ah, that goes back to the old board.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jan 13, 2020 0:19:13 GMT -8
I posted this on the 'other' board. It fits with the recent discussion regarding the possibility of an accomplice. At the time of Deangelo's arrest Paul Holes said they initially did not think he was the guy simply because he didn't think it possible that he could have been the EAR while serving as a full-time cop in Auburn and even though 'investigators always believed the East Area Rapist could have been a police officer because he had evaded authorities for so long'. I'm with Holes. I'm still with Holes on that one. www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article210003114.htmlIn one interview, Auburn Chief Willick said that JJD would have been a relief officer for his first two years - so he'd be working various shifts. In another interview he said JJD might have had four days on and three days off sometimes.
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Post by nick on Jan 18, 2020 22:53:37 GMT -8
I am certain the position JJD held at Auburn PD aided him in so many different ways while committing the EAR series. JJD had different days off and with a changing schedule, his family and friends most likely thought he was a work anytime they did not see him around. The amount of time he committed to prowling and stalking alone would be tough for anyone not working a rotating schedule to explain. If he was the relief guy like I have heard it makes the most sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 2:37:34 GMT -8
Comparing his Auburn PD attendance records/schedule to the dates of the crimes and other prowling incidents would probably clear a lot of things up.
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Post by nick on Jan 29, 2020 11:32:14 GMT -8
I believe this victim was very important to JJD and the clothesline alarm system he used was a direct attempt to lead LE to a possible Zodiac evolution. The jewelry placed in the strange neighbor kid's house was probably a backup or plan B to frame or misdirect LE. JJD was, of course, the master of redirection. JJD might have been closer to this victim than the others and felt he needed to do those things to avoid capture because there was a clear connection to her and him. What that connection is would be nice to know.
JJD had to have been worried the Rancho Cat series would be connected to the EAR crime series and he had to take a course of action to avoid it. The Sheriff's ADEPT team should have been included in the investigation from the start they had been after JJD first and had some very real leads. The most important was what is known as the Sarda Way incident JJD was seen in the daylight without a mask. Patricia even did a composite drawing that was later updated and used at the FBI press conference prior to JJD's capture. ADEPT knew what they had an evolving sexual predator.
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Post by johnnyhands1 on Jan 29, 2020 22:01:39 GMT -8
Comparing his Auburn PD attendance records/schedule to the dates of the crimes and other prowling incidents would probably clear a lot of things up. There might be some gems in those police reports, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's nothing concrete. He might have wanted to keep his crime sprees separate. But given his alleged behavior from some Tulare witnesses during his Exeter PD tenure, I wouldn't be surprised if there are other serious Placer County crimes during that period that involved victim hunting he did while on Auburn patrol. I would consider framing of suspects as a serious crime - it's something he could do while on the Auburn PD clock.
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Post by nick on Feb 18, 2020 13:54:51 GMT -8
I posted this on the 'other' board. It fits with the recent discussion regarding the possibility of an accomplice. At the time of Deangelo's arrest Paul Holes said they initially did not think he was the guy simply because he didn't think it possible that he could have been the EAR while serving as a full-time cop in Auburn and even though 'investigators always believed the East Area Rapist could have been a police officer because he had evaded authorities for so long'. I'm with Holes. I'm still with Holes on that one. www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article210003114.html
Holes is a ham-brained idiot.
A case of shameless self promoting due to the huge media attention???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 10:38:13 GMT -8
I appreciate that the man can speak so well. I mean, look on the brightside....somebody HAS to be a face to this GSK stuff in the media, at least it's not somebody like Wendy Williams.......or Anne Marie Schubert.
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Post by nick on Oct 15, 2020 14:36:35 GMT -8
This early stalking to me shows how far in advance JJD planned or it shows how obsessed he was with victim #6 or a suppose it could be both. There were victims JJD seemed to spend more time preparing for an attack but I think he became attracted to the family itself, not just the victim. There were the pre-attack burglaries and in this case years of stalking he must have felt something for the family.
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Post by nick on Oct 27, 2024 0:36:23 GMT -8
This victim was critical to JJD and he had been stalking her for years. This was also a victim that was so important that JJD attempted to have the strange neighbor kid (Young adult) framed for this attack. JJD had even followed this victim to Del Camp High School for a school event years before the attack. JJD placed items from other EAR attacks inside this neighbor's home in an attempt to frame him. This victim was too close to JJD for him to take a chance on LE establishing him as a possible suspect. This victim was significant to JJD but we may never know the exact reason other than the sick perverted ways of a man who obsessed with some victims more than others. The family had been stalked and had many strange things happen over the years that did not make sense until October 9th, 1976 when the victim was assaulted. Something had caused JJD to have a connection to this particular victim, there were a few others that also had a stronger connection to JJD. I am sure many victims asked why did this happen to me and why did he come after me. The truth is JJD has a twisted brain that combines sex and violence fusion and he has an unhealthy attraction to women and girls that in real life he would never have had a chance within a real relationship. The unobtainable attracted him, and the more "out of his league" the greater the obsession. The amount of time he spent selecting victims with only a small number of unprepared unplanned sexual assaults speaks volumes to his victology. I think his very unhealthy sex drive may have caused him to commit some, although small number, of attacks that appeared to be "on the fly" due to the victims visiting or being at a location for the first time. There was even one case where he may have confused the victim with the actual target who lived next door to the attack site. I think it is important to understand how he selected victims to try to understand the criminal crime especially when the offender is a member of LE. That is the mind I want to get into and dissect for hunting future offenders and more importantly, protecting future victims. What came first being the offender or being a cop? In JJD case he seemed to have been a sexual burglar for years before becoming a cop. JJD was a daredevil who seemed to crave the excitement and was most likely from all accounts a peeping Tom as well. Something happened when he was in puberty that turned sex and violence into a combined element. JJD lost interest in "straight sex" and needed violence to gain sexual satisfaction or the fear element. He wanted women to be afraid of him and fear him and it became the only way he could enjoy sex. There was also after a while of sexually assaulting women and girls he began to empathize with his victims most likely from having female children in his marriage. I believe those crying episodes he had during some of his attacks were indeed real and not an act. But that is not an excuse or makes him a victim of any kind, it just means he had a small amount of inner toil as he aged. This is common in other serial sexual offenders but is never to suggest any of them are victims but are the predators they have always been.
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