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Post by nick on Oct 29, 2019 12:20:12 GMT -8
The 1973 burglary on Dawes Street where a suspect that I consider to be EAR (Pre-sexual assault) broken in and stole a pair of earrings and coins from a teenager who lived there. This same teenager who had moved from that house to another in Rancho Cordova becomes victim #6 is that a coincidence? I do not believe that for one minute. To me, it shows a possible foundation for proving EAR was in Rancho in 1973 and that is without all the other reports I have read. As a stand-alone case, 1973 burglary helps to support more than not that EAR was in Rancho as early as 1973.
This is without adding the other reports I have seen from the Sheriff's Department in and around the same time period that could be categorized as EAR type of activity. I believe this shows compelling evidence EAR was in Rancho during the time frame VR was active.
There were other offenders however there is MO that makes the difference between them. Burglars tend to stick with what they know and look for things to take that they decided were important to them. The way they get in the houses they choose the items they steal or don't steal even. The sexual burglar is a different breed than the common thief they are two different animals as you know. They do things very differently to the trained eye but it takes a keen-eyed Officer to spot the difference with some of them. I believe Sac Sheriff's knew they had a sexual burglar working Rancho during the pre-EAR sexual attack period.
These are from my older 2018 posts for reference.
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Post by nick on Oct 29, 2019 12:35:43 GMT -8
The 6th EAR/JJD victim was first stalked back in 1973 and I have uncovered an early time than this recently. As we all know JJD's family lived in this Rancho Neighborhood and I believe he targeted this family earlier than the known 1973 burglary. This family even moved during this time period and JJD was able to locate them. There was also the Del Camp High School car break-in when the 6th victim's driver's license was stolen.
JJD targeted the family at least 2 years earlier than the known 1973 incident. The victim herself I don't believe was the original target she was younger at that time. There was another target JJD was hunting in the family. JJD did turn his attention to the teenager since she was attacked in 1976.
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Post by nick on Oct 30, 2019 11:01:23 GMT -8
I believe the Valiant and possibly the ford was a worst-case scenario bailout vehicles for JJD. The placement of the vehicles would be important to my thoughts on how JJD fled from the East Area attacks. It makes sense he was attacking and stalking in Rancho his former neighborhood and fleeing to Folsom an area he attended High School and then finally fleeing to Auburn. This is much in the way of the rape kits that were discovered hidden in bushes that were believed to be JJDs. This from the meticulous planner would not be a stretch of the imagination and they were located at the midway point to his home.
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Post by nick on Oct 30, 2019 11:44:15 GMT -8
The clothesline doorknob web is also very interesting to me was it an attempt to further frame the neighborhood weirdo living behind the victim or was there another reason for it? JJD knew about this family, after all, he had been stalking them for years and I don't think he would have not known who was home and or when they might return.
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Post by sammyt on Nov 1, 2019 7:47:05 GMT -8
I would like to know more about the 'neighborhood weirdo', and about the reserve officer who attended the crime scene.
Was the reserve officer a POI for the EMR case??? Or was the POI one of the neighborhood youths? Sorry for all the questions, but this all quite confusing!
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Post by k862 on Nov 7, 2019 2:03:22 GMT -8
The clothesline doorknob web is also very interesting to me was it an attempt to further frame the neighborhood weirdo living behind the victim or was there another reason for it? JJD knew about this family, after all, he had been stalking them for years and I don't think he would have not known who was home and or when they might return. There is a controversy over whether Deangelo was employed on a full time basis in Auburn. It is apparent he was full time in Exeter. Do you know about Auburn? There are those who are saying he was employed to cover for vacations and sick days. Which doesn’t make sense. A young man in the 1970s with a wife and then kids, I would expect he would have a full time position. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 3:52:37 GMT -8
The clothesline doorknob web is also very interesting to me Same here, Nick. Wish we could see a photo of it. |
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Post by nick on Dec 26, 2019 21:33:27 GMT -8
The clothesline doorknob web is also very interesting to me Same here, Nick. Wish we could see a photo of it. The depiction in Shelby's book seems correct as to what was in the report. I did not see a crime scene photo of the clothesline door knob locking device constructed by the offender. JJD was such a careful planner and he most differently knew this family without any doubt and had been stalking and prowling them from at least 1973. The question begs to ask what was point I am sure he knew who was home and who had left. This clothesline alarm was taking time away from the victim and did not seem to be necessary. JJD could have arrived late to the home and not had time to lay in wait like he had done so many times before but this victim was a special one for him he waited all this time to attack in the length of years so why would he not be prepared? There is always the red herring and another attempt to push LE in the wrong direction and his attempt at framing the strange guy living in the upper stairs of the house behind the victim. |
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Post by nick on Dec 28, 2019 17:13:34 GMT -8
There are so many questions on this attack. The fact the victim had a brother that lived in the family home was another of the unusual things. JJD would have known this was the same family from 1973 and had he been waiting all this time for the victim to mature? Why the clothesline JJD had to have known the rest of the family was gone even the neighbor kid living behind them knew they were all gone except the victim. JJD takes the victim outside on the patio after preparing that elaborate doorknob set up? He seemed to have also planned on taking her on the patio all along since items were moved to accommodate the sexual assault. He seemed to be unprepared for this attack yet he had waiting all this time to attack a victim that was most certainly a special one for him.
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Post by nick on Dec 28, 2019 21:38:11 GMT -8
If it is to be believed JJD is VR then this 1973 March burglary happened before VR started in Visalia and we know JJF was living in Exeter at that time. JJD was in fact believed to be in Rancho in this particular area prowling and entering victim's homes during the VR series. The troubling thing for me if JJD was VR why would a man that worked so hard later on in his crime series to never commit a crime very close to his actual home or work residence commit crimes so close to Exeter risking being Identified. He followed a controlled and structured pattern of studying the victims and knowing exactly who lived in the homes prior to attacking and made sure to never commit a crime where he was living. The Rancho Cat activities that occurred before and some after VR series dates make more sense than him committing crimes in a place so close to his own home. JJD being a cop in Exeter would surely have known that Visalia PD was conducting surveillance and was waiting to catch VR. JJD was so careful at the other crimes he was able to avoid all attempts at LE to surveil and or catch him by laying in wait. There are a few cases where LE was inside of homes waiting for him to come back after he had done his prowling and setting up of the home to ease his entry into the victim's homes so why would he fall for the VR trap set my McGowan?
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Post by nick on Dec 28, 2019 21:44:08 GMT -8
This 6th victim was so important that he followed her to a new home that makes me believe he was in Rancho much more than we know he was and he was, of course, able to locate the family again in my opinion due to excessive prowling in Rancho.
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Post by nick on Dec 28, 2019 21:48:35 GMT -8
I am straying from this topic I think I need a VR thread to post all of the many reasons that make me question JJD being VR.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 4:43:26 GMT -8
There are so many questions on this attack. The fact the victim had a brother that lived in the family home was another of the unusual things. JJD would have known this was the same family from 1973 and had he been waiting all this time for the victim to mature? Why the clothesline JJD had to have known the rest of the family was gone even the neighbor kid living behind them knew they were all gone except the victim. JJD takes the victim outside on the patio after preparing that elaborate doorknob set up? He seemed to have also planned on taking her on the patio all along since items were moved to accommodate the sexual assault. He seemed to be unprepared for this attack yet he had waiting all this time to attack a victim that was most certainly a special one for him. I agree, Nick. This attack does raise a lot of questions. It's quite frustrating. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 4:47:53 GMT -8
he followed her to a new home that makes me believe he was in Rancho much more than we know Good point, Nick. |
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Post by nick on Dec 29, 2019 19:02:39 GMT -8
I was just having a flashback to a thread on the other board about this attack where Morf was so convinced victim #6 had not moved from a previous address on Dawes and the family had never moved. Morf was convinced the 1973 burglary was the same house as the attack because LE had told him well his sources were wrong we know that now for sure. The fact the family had moved is very important to JJD'S advanced prowling and stalking techniques. Don't get me wrong I like Morf but he was just fed misinformation by his LE sources. I believe they just read the report wrong and it stated the family had been burglarized in 1973 and just did not list the address on Dawes and that lead to LE believing both incidents were on El Segundo.
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